Comments on: Fox News’ Racism http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/07/09/fox-news-racism/ Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:43:46 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: marandaNJ http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/07/09/fox-news-racism/comment-page-1/#comment-12603 marandaNJ Wed, 03 Feb 2010 14:35:37 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=2866#comment-12603 To Optioalpig: First of all, if you are Human, you indeed belong to the same species. Kilmeade got that wrong from the get-go. Secondly, if the guy knew any history, he'd realize that throughout history, one group of people conquered another and then married into that group. Or, as one group of people traveled globally, they met other groups and married into those groups. Thus, his entire premise is erroneous. Furthermore, since this site indeed posted your comment, even though it runs counter to the general opinion here, why do you acuse this country/website as being unfree? You were allowed to voice your views, correct? If you ran a website, I doubt you would be so liberal minded as to allow other opinions that did not respond with your own. Thanks for all the insight, guy! To Optioalpig:
First of all, if you are Human, you indeed belong to the same species. Kilmeade got that wrong from the get-go. Secondly, if the guy knew any history, he’d realize that throughout history, one group of people conquered another and then married into that group. Or, as one group of people traveled globally, they met other groups and married into those groups. Thus, his entire premise is erroneous.
Furthermore, since this site indeed posted your comment, even though it runs counter to the general opinion here, why do you acuse this country/website as being unfree? You were allowed to voice your views, correct? If you ran a website, I doubt you would be so liberal minded as to allow other opinions that did not respond with your own. Thanks for all the insight, guy!

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]]> By: John D. Foster http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/07/09/fox-news-racism/comment-page-1/#comment-12601 John D. Foster Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:03:42 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=2866#comment-12601 Didn't you see the post by Jessie on Chris Matthew's comment that he forgot Obama was black? Last I checked he's on msnbc. Not to mention Pat Buchanan, a regular commentator on msnbc, has been discussed at this site regularly for his long history of white supremacy. Look before you leap. Didn’t you see the post by Jessie on Chris Matthew’s comment that he forgot Obama was black? Last I checked he’s on msnbc. Not to mention Pat Buchanan, a regular commentator on msnbc, has been discussed at this site regularly for his long history of white supremacy. Look before you leap.

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]]> By: opticalpig http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/07/09/fox-news-racism/comment-page-1/#comment-12600 opticalpig Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:35:48 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=2866#comment-12600 This whole website is pretty pathetic. I searched it for the racist remarks made by commentators on CBS, ABC, and NBC (and they do exist) and none of them are there. So it's basically not about racism. It's about attack Fox News and conservatism??!! Stupid. And by the way, although I don't agree with Kilmeade, when did this country become so un-free that we can't hold our own personal opinions on something . . . right or wrong? You guys are the 'Righteous Meters' of the U.S.? You're the ones who are sad blinded sheep. We all have to think the same way. Say the same words. Watch the same news program. Pathetic! And 'a whole lot of white people believe this crap' isn't a racist remark??? This whole website is pretty pathetic. I searched it for the racist remarks made by commentators on CBS, ABC, and NBC (and they do exist) and none of them are there. So it’s basically not about racism. It’s about attack Fox News and conservatism??!! Stupid.

And by the way, although I don’t agree with Kilmeade, when did this country become so un-free that we can’t hold our own personal opinions on something . . . right or wrong?

You guys are the ‘Righteous Meters’ of the U.S.?

You’re the ones who are sad blinded sheep. We all have to think the same way. Say the same words. Watch the same news program. Pathetic!

And ‘a whole lot of white people believe this crap’ isn’t a racist remark???

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]]> By: Karen http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/07/09/fox-news-racism/comment-page-1/#comment-9533 Karen Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:51:20 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=2866#comment-9533 This thing about finland people and swedes have pure genes is a joke. Boy I tell ya, those ignorant white basterd at Fox News are absolutley ASSinine individuals and should be taken off the Tv period. White people DO NOT HAVE PURE BLOOD RUNNING THOUGHT THEIR VEINS! Do the RESEARCH! This thing about finland people and swedes have pure genes is a joke. Boy I tell ya, those ignorant white basterd at Fox News are absolutley ASSinine individuals and should be taken off the Tv period. White people DO NOT HAVE PURE BLOOD RUNNING THOUGHT THEIR VEINS! Do the RESEARCH!

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]]> By: Mom to No1KState http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/07/09/fox-news-racism/comment-page-1/#comment-8649 Mom to No1KState Sat, 18 Jul 2009 10:56:55 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=2866#comment-8649 I am just writing this because after the recent dicussion regarding racism "in general" the other day, I started to look around, and I have to agree with the majority of what was being said too me....There is racism that still exits in this country...I don't know your catch words like "poster child" or "white frame thinking". I appoligize for my ignorance with regards to the subject matter...I would like to learn more about this topic...There's really in nothing that I can do as an individual about a whole society, but I am willing to learn, and if possible, help in some small way. So, if you could suggest some reading materials on the subject I would be interested or at least have a better understanding of what's being discussed on this site...Thanks:) I am just writing this because after the recent dicussion regarding racism “in general” the other day, I started to look around, and I have to agree with the majority of what was being said too me….There is racism that still exits in this country…I don’t know your catch words like “poster child” or “white frame thinking”. I appoligize for my ignorance with regards to the subject matter…I would like to learn more about this topic…There’s really in nothing that I can do as an individual about a whole society, but I am willing to learn, and if possible, help in some small way. So, if you could suggest some reading materials on the subject I would be interested or at least have a better understanding of what’s being discussed on this site…Thanks:)

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]]> By: JoshD http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/07/09/fox-news-racism/comment-page-1/#comment-8496 JoshD Wed, 15 Jul 2009 05:11:51 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=2866#comment-8496 Wow, this guy is pretty unbelievable.... A theory: There were some peer concerns regarding a portion of the study where the presences of a specific gene was identified as being related to Alzheimer's rates. Basically the point of contention was that the populations sampled did not represent a sufficiently "varied" genetic makeup (with respect to the presence of this gene and some others which are thought to be co-related with Alzheimer's rates). My guess is some staffer mentioned this caveat in a random side note, and Mr. Kilmeade took that to mean the Swedes were too "pure-blooded" or some other such nonsense. I guess it's easy to hear what you want to believe. In any case, it's pretty irresponsible to go on the air and start blurting out whatever pops into your head without even thoroughly reading what's been written down for you. Then again, I shouldn't expect much better considering the source. If anyone is interested, the article can be found at: http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/339/jul02_2/b2462?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=marriage&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=date&resourcetype=HWCIT Wow, this guy is pretty unbelievable….

A theory:
There were some peer concerns regarding a portion of the study where the presences of a specific gene was identified as being related to Alzheimer’s rates. Basically the point of contention was that the populations sampled did not represent a sufficiently “varied” genetic makeup (with respect to the presence of this gene and some others which are thought to be co-related with Alzheimer’s rates).

My guess is some staffer mentioned this caveat in a random side note, and Mr. Kilmeade took that to mean the Swedes were too “pure-blooded” or some other such nonsense. I guess it’s easy to hear what you want to believe.

In any case, it’s pretty irresponsible to go on the air and start blurting out whatever pops into your head without even thoroughly reading what’s been written down for you. Then again, I shouldn’t expect much better considering the source.

If anyone is interested, the article can be found at:

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/339/jul02_2/b2462?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=marriage&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=date&resourcetype=HWCIT

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]]> By: cb3n http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/07/09/fox-news-racism/comment-page-1/#comment-8474 cb3n Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:21:27 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=2866#comment-8474 While this is somewhat off topic from the discussion going on here, and while I think the original post does a great job placing Kilmeade's comments in their historical context, I felt that the (probably unintentional) implications of this sentence deserved comment: "While claims about “fitness” and “unfitness” were sometimes tied to inherited disease, just as often these designations were linked to poverty and race." It should go without saying but I find that often it doesn't. Of course forced sterilization of people who have diseases or disabilities that may potentially be passed on to their children is no more morally justified than determining who has the right to reproduction or life based on race or poverty. Ultimately the decision of whether or not to reproduce when newborn children will likely be disabled should be about informed consent on the part of the parents not arbitrary determinations made by doctors or institutions. Kilmeade's comments were clearly evoking the history of eugenics as it relates to race and ethnicity, but I think its helpful to try and remember that ultimately eugenics isn't totally a theory about race, it is a theory which has historically been used to frame race, class, sexuality, gender identity and other aspects of personhood as indicators of (dis)ability. What we're talking about here is the justification of oppression of individuals based on race by defining them as disabled, and what we should be objecting to when objecting to eugenics isn't necessarily the assertion that being a person of color is a disability but that disabled people should be denied reproductive, social or political rights or that disabled people are a detriment to society or humanity. While this is somewhat off topic from the discussion going on here, and while I think the original post does a great job placing Kilmeade’s comments in their historical context, I felt that the (probably unintentional) implications of this sentence deserved comment:

“While claims about “fitness” and “unfitness” were sometimes tied to inherited disease, just as often these designations were linked to poverty and race.”

It should go without saying but I find that often it doesn’t. Of course forced sterilization of people who have diseases or disabilities that may potentially be passed on to their children is no more morally justified than determining who has the right to reproduction or life based on race or poverty. Ultimately the decision of whether or not to reproduce when newborn children will likely be disabled should be about informed consent on the part of the parents not arbitrary determinations made by doctors or institutions.

Kilmeade’s comments were clearly evoking the history of eugenics as it relates to race and ethnicity, but I think its helpful to try and remember that ultimately eugenics isn’t totally a theory about race, it is a theory which has historically been used to frame race, class, sexuality, gender identity and other aspects of personhood as indicators of (dis)ability. What we’re talking about here is the justification of oppression of individuals based on race by defining them as disabled, and what we should be objecting to when objecting to eugenics isn’t necessarily the assertion that being a person of color is a disability but that disabled people should be denied reproductive, social or political rights or that disabled people are a detriment to society or humanity.

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]]> By: Joe http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/07/09/fox-news-racism/comment-page-1/#comment-8356 Joe Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:29:07 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=2866#comment-8356 Actually, Fox was intentionally created to help preserve the racist, sexist, classist, and heterosexist systems of this society. Its minders, the conservative wing of the ruling elite, were worried that the main networks and think tanks were too liberal. It is, as they say, the Faux news network, and is designed to con its large, mostly white viewers. It operates openly to reinforce all those oppressive systems, and thus of course allows much racist hate speech, and other kinds of racist, sexist, homophobic, classist commentary. the intent is to preserve the US system for those who have run it from the beginning. It will stay that way, or grow, until we the people challenge it.... Eternal organization against such forces is the price of liberty. Actually, Fox was intentionally created to help preserve the racist, sexist, classist, and heterosexist systems of this society. Its minders, the conservative wing of the ruling elite, were worried that the main networks and think tanks were too liberal. It is, as they say, the Faux news network, and is designed to con its large, mostly white viewers. It operates openly to reinforce all those oppressive systems, and thus of course allows much racist hate speech, and other kinds of racist, sexist, homophobic, classist commentary. the intent is to preserve the US system for those who have run it from the beginning. It will stay that way, or grow, until we the people challenge it…. Eternal organization against such forces is the price of liberty.

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]]> By: Bambi http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/07/09/fox-news-racism/comment-page-1/#comment-8350 Bambi Sat, 11 Jul 2009 04:47:46 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=2866#comment-8350 Danette: How can this be happening? Simple answer...its all about financial power. Rupert Murdoch, owner of Fox News, has a 34 per cent stake in Hughes Electronics, the operator of the largest American satellite TV system, DirecTV, from General Motors for $6 billion. He also owned Dow Jones. In addition, because he is known as a media oligarch, he has made alliances with many powerful political figures (republican and democrat). With a hand in so many prominent cookie jars, it is no wonder that Fox is given certain allowances. Danette: How can this be happening? Simple answer…its all about financial power. Rupert Murdoch, owner of Fox News, has a 34 per cent stake in Hughes Electronics, the operator of the largest American satellite TV system, DirecTV, from General Motors for $6 billion. He also owned Dow Jones. In addition, because he is known as a media oligarch, he has made alliances with many powerful political figures (republican and democrat). With a hand in so many prominent cookie jars, it is no wonder that Fox is given certain allowances.

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]]> By: Danette Hurt http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/07/09/fox-news-racism/comment-page-1/#comment-8348 Danette Hurt Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:44:02 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=2866#comment-8348 I cannot bleive how racist this station is??????? I we going over the website listings and this topic has popped up for years. How is it possible that they continue to get away with this type of behavior without any consequences?? I am shocked that this continues to happen. When I go in places they are playing FOX and there are Black people working in htese places. How can that be? I leave and don't use the place but what about other places around the world? What ca be done. There has to be something that can be done. I cannot bleive how racist this station is??????? I we going over the website listings and this topic has popped up for years. How is it possible that they continue to get away with this type of behavior without any consequences?? I am shocked that this continues to happen. When I go in places they are playing FOX and there are Black people working in htese places. How can that be? I leave and don’t use the place but what about other places around the world? What ca be done. There has to be something that can be done.

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