Comments on: Taking Anti-Racist Action: Why Rare for Whites? http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/01/09/taking-anti-racist-action-why-rare-for-whites/ Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:43:46 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: More Facebook Racism | racismreview.com http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/01/09/taking-anti-racist-action-why-rare-for-whites/comment-page-1/#comment-9075 More Facebook Racism | racismreview.com Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:14:07 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=1180#comment-9075 [...] (and once, a Harvard-only space) — often have the illusion that they are talking in the “backstage” in a private, whites-only space.   Take for example, a woman named Lee Landor who, until very [...] [...] (and once, a Harvard-only space) — often have the illusion that they are talking in the “backstage” in a private, whites-only space.   Take for example, a woman named Lee Landor who, until very [...]

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]]> By: Racism of the Absurd: Chia Pets & Fried Chicken | racismreview.com http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/01/09/taking-anti-racist-action-why-rare-for-whites/comment-page-1/#comment-7044 Racism of the Absurd: Chia Pets & Fried Chicken | racismreview.com Thu, 09 Apr 2009 12:08:11 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=1180#comment-7044 [...] might remain in the backstage of private conversation erupt into the frontstage (for more on this, see this post and read, Picca and Feagin, 2008).    Thus, what might have seemed funny in a private [...] [...] might remain in the backstage of private conversation erupt into the frontstage (for more on this, see this post and read, Picca and Feagin, 2008).    Thus, what might have seemed funny in a private [...]

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]]> By: jackii http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/01/09/taking-anti-racist-action-why-rare-for-whites/comment-page-1/#comment-6652 jackii Fri, 20 Feb 2009 03:51:02 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=1180#comment-6652 in order for the racist community to change, they need to hear about raising their conscious from a source that they trust. i judge that it does no good to further the cause against racism to confront a near stranger (this includes family members if they are not close friends) about racism. so i'm not rushing to place guilt on these non-blacks. i judge people that confront ignorant behavior in a reactive mood to be divisive, and therefore not helpful to the cause. that nothing was written in diaries, does say to me that racism doesn't seem to be a major issue for them. but who knows how much the researchers involved influenced the data they received? in order for the racist community to change, they need to hear about raising their conscious from a source that they trust.

i judge that it does no good to further the cause against racism to confront a near stranger (this includes family members if they are not close friends) about racism. so i’m not rushing to place guilt on these non-blacks.

i judge people that confront ignorant behavior in a reactive mood to be divisive, and therefore not helpful to the cause.

that nothing was written in diaries, does say to me that racism doesn’t seem to be a major issue for them. but who knows how much the researchers involved influenced the data they received?

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]]> By: Restructure! http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/01/09/taking-anti-racist-action-why-rare-for-whites/comment-page-1/#comment-6434 Restructure! Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:05:11 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=1180#comment-6434 Correction: Those were not 120 whites, but 120 non-blacks. Even the articles you linked to say "non-black", not "white". "Non-black" does not equal "white". Correction: Those were not 120 whites, but 120 non-blacks. Even the articles you linked to say “non-black”, not “white”.

“Non-black” does not equal “white”.

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]]> By: sad sad sad world « rising phoenix http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/01/09/taking-anti-racist-action-why-rare-for-whites/comment-page-1/#comment-6314 sad sad sad world « rising phoenix Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:58:33 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=1180#comment-6314 [...] Talking Anti-Racist Action: Why Rare for Whites? [...] [...] Talking Anti-Racist Action: Why Rare for Whites? [...]

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]]> By: admin http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/01/09/taking-anti-racist-action-why-rare-for-whites/comment-page-1/#comment-6264 admin Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:47:20 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=1180#comment-6264 Zombie mom, thanks for all your savvy comments. What you note here is a common reality for anti-racist whites, that in between "marginal" reality sociologists often talk about for many groups. The few studies of anti-racist whites show that most feel that way. It too is the result of a racist society. It will only disappear when the racist society disappears. As will the greater pain suffered by those folks of color who are targeted by racism daily and constantly. Zombie mom, thanks for all your savvy comments. What you note here is a common reality for anti-racist whites, that in between “marginal” reality sociologists often talk about for many groups. The few studies of anti-racist whites show that most feel that way. It too is the result of a racist society. It will only disappear when the racist society disappears. As will the greater pain suffered by those folks of color who are targeted by racism daily and constantly.

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]]> By: Zombie Mom http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/01/09/taking-anti-racist-action-why-rare-for-whites/comment-page-1/#comment-6263 Zombie Mom Sun, 11 Jan 2009 05:29:44 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=1180#comment-6263 Thanks for this post. As a white woman married to a black man, with multi-racial kids who are, of course, seen as black by most of our culture- I take an aggressively anti-racist approach to life. Sure, its cost me friends, some rough encounters with law enforcement, lost me clients, but is there really an alternative? Honestly, I think my earlier work (prior to mom and parenting) as an anti-oppression,. anti-racist ally (through TODOS- now defunct Oakland organization) made me realize that committing to life as an ally would be both uncomfortable and amazingly enriching. That said, the seeming paradox of both benefiting from and rejecting the complicity of white privilege has led to me feeling a bit displaced. Not complaining, just observing- that despite benefiting hugely from being white and middle class, I feel like the willingness of my peers to be complicit with individual, economic and institutional acts of racism is a something that divides us. The recent murder of Oscar Grant and ensuing discussions certainly illuminated the differences in the communities in which I spend time- black and white. Thanks for this post. As a white woman married to a black man, with multi-racial kids who are, of course, seen as black by most of our culture- I take an aggressively anti-racist approach to life. Sure, its cost me friends, some rough encounters with law enforcement, lost me clients, but is there really an alternative?

Honestly, I think my earlier work (prior to mom and parenting) as an anti-oppression,. anti-racist ally (through TODOS- now defunct Oakland organization) made me realize that committing to life as an ally would be both uncomfortable and amazingly enriching.

That said, the seeming paradox of both benefiting from and rejecting the complicity of white privilege has led to me feeling a bit displaced. Not complaining, just observing- that despite benefiting hugely from being white and middle class, I feel like the willingness of my peers to be complicit with individual, economic and institutional acts of racism is a something that divides us.

The recent murder of Oscar Grant and ensuing discussions certainly illuminated the differences in the communities in which I spend time- black and white.

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]]> By: Victor http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/01/09/taking-anti-racist-action-why-rare-for-whites/comment-page-1/#comment-6253 Victor Sat, 10 Jan 2009 14:57:44 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=1180#comment-6253 The original study in science says that the black confederate left the room. I agree that leaving the black confederate in the room would be an interesting condition in a future study, The original study in science says that the black confederate left the room. I agree that leaving the black confederate in the room would be an interesting condition in a future study,

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]]> By: Joe http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/01/09/taking-anti-racist-action-why-rare-for-whites/comment-page-1/#comment-6252 Joe Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:52:04 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=1180#comment-6252 Louise, that is a good point. One gains too more than new friends too by breaking with racism, one gains a better moral position. Pitseleh, I cannot tell about the structure of the experiment either. Louise, that is a good point. One gains too more than new friends too by breaking with racism, one gains a better moral position.

Pitseleh, I cannot tell about the structure of the experiment either.

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]]> By: Pitseleh http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/01/09/taking-anti-racist-action-why-rare-for-whites/comment-page-1/#comment-6247 Pitseleh Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:58:56 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=1180#comment-6247 I'm wondering if the black confederate was outside of the room ("didn't hear") the comment or inside the room. I read the AP report, and am not sure about this in their protocol. Anyway, it would make an interesting condition for future studies. I’m wondering if the black confederate was outside of the room (”didn’t hear”) the comment or inside the room. I read the AP report, and am not sure about this in their protocol. Anyway, it would make an interesting condition for future studies.

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