Comments on: Denying Our Racist Realities: An Old White Sport http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/01/02/denying-our-racist-realities-an-old-white-sport/ Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:22:54 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Seattle in Texas http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/01/02/denying-our-racist-realities-an-old-white-sport/comment-page-1/#comment-6199 Seattle in Texas Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:44:08 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=1117#comment-6199 Thank you :) And, to help substantiate your point on state executions in the U.S.? Here's the line up for those to come in the state I am currently residing in: http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/stat/scheduledexecutions.htm :( As you can tell from the racist dialogue above the executions go far beyond the walls of death row here.... You know and cops have (well back in WA state, they have both rubber bullets and real bullets...anyway...no excuse) Also, I think that reparations need to extend beyond slavery as during Jim Crow, not only did African Americans get the shit work, etc., they got fined millions for violating madated segregation laws and ordinaces that were only later to be deemed illegal and unconstitutional during the 60's... And jwbe, you can clearly see how the same exact racism continues to persist in this nation...continued fines, arrests, deaths, segregation, KARTINA VICTIMS (directed at the person who responded to the IOWA flooding post last evening) etc. It's a white supremacist society--period.... Anybody who would argue less is either a white supremacist or a supporter of white supremacy...and of course imperialism.... Thank you :) And, to help substantiate your point on state executions in the U.S.? Here’s the line up for those to come in the state I am currently residing in: http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/stat/scheduledexecutions.htm :( As you can tell from the racist dialogue above the executions go far beyond the walls of death row here…. You know and cops have (well back in WA state, they have both rubber bullets and real bullets…anyway…no excuse)

Also, I think that reparations need to extend beyond slavery as during Jim Crow, not only did African Americans get the shit work, etc., they got fined millions for violating madated segregation laws and ordinaces that were only later to be deemed illegal and unconstitutional during the 60’s… And jwbe, you can clearly see how the same exact racism continues to persist in this nation…continued fines, arrests, deaths, segregation, KARTINA VICTIMS (directed at the person who responded to the IOWA flooding post last evening) etc. It’s a white supremacist society–period…. Anybody who would argue less is either a white supremacist or a supporter of white supremacy…and of course imperialism….

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]]> By: jwbe http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/01/02/denying-our-racist-realities-an-old-white-sport/comment-page-1/#comment-6179 jwbe Thu, 08 Jan 2009 06:37:05 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=1117#comment-6179 also: http://www.couragetoresist.org/x/content/view/643/1/ also: http://www.couragetoresist.org/x/content/view/643/1/

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]]> By: Seattle in Texas http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/01/02/denying-our-racist-realities-an-old-white-sport/comment-page-1/#comment-6174 Seattle in Texas Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:27:55 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=1117#comment-6174 (here's that last website again if it did not come out correctly the last time if interested: http://www.couragetoresist.org/x/content/blogcategory/22/39/ ) (here’s that last website again if it did not come out correctly the last time if interested: http://www.couragetoresist.org/x/content/blogcategory/22/39/ )

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]]> By: Seattle in Texas http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/01/02/denying-our-racist-realities-an-old-white-sport/comment-page-1/#comment-6173 Seattle in Texas Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:24:32 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=1117#comment-6173 I appreciate all of the points noted above and was hoping others would share their thoughts on the post above--putting my other thoughts aside such as there are homes quite similar to the picture that people live in only about 30-45 minutes from where I live... and other stuff...I wanted to say quickly though, jwbe, the mirror is mighty ugly over here and our education systems seem to serve more as an intellectual labotomy machine for the U.S. masses (especially K-12) to perhaps put it one way...but believe it or not...we do have a few people who actually do think over here (and take great risks when they do so...as our history has shown, even death...). But here is a contemporary U.S. American who deserves much support and respect in my opinion (an article from several months ago): http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003044627_nogo7m.html And more information on Lt. Watada (check out the resister profiles for others...though so few!): http: //www.couragetoresist.org/x/content/blogcategory/22/39/ As of for reparations...yes...likely? Not any time soon so far as I can see.... I appreciate all of the points noted above and was hoping others would share their thoughts on the post above–putting my other thoughts aside such as there are homes quite similar to the picture that people live in only about 30-45 minutes from where I live… and other stuff…I wanted to say quickly though, jwbe, the mirror is mighty ugly over here and our education systems seem to serve more as an intellectual labotomy machine for the U.S. masses (especially K-12) to perhaps put it one way…but believe it or not…we do have a few people who actually do think over here (and take great risks when they do so…as our history has shown, even death…). But here is a contemporary U.S. American who deserves much support and respect in my opinion (an article from several months ago): http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003044627_nogo7m.html

And more information on Lt. Watada (check out the resister profiles for others…though so few!): http: //www.couragetoresist.org/x/content/blogcategory/22/39/

As of for reparations…yes…likely? Not any time soon so far as I can see….

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]]> By: Shari http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/01/02/denying-our-racist-realities-an-old-white-sport/comment-page-1/#comment-6170 Shari Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:48:46 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=1117#comment-6170 I have to clench my jaws to read most press on the election and race. Denial and claims of colorblindness are truly an American tradition. If you can make a group invisible by colorblindness, you can allow the institutions of race to do the rest. I googled until my fingers hurt looking for any writer any where to discuss in Salazar's Interior Department appointment that he hold the fate of all Indian nations in his hands. Not one mention of his duties regarding native peoples or his record on them. Not only does he have jurisdiction over the Bureau of Indian Affairs, but Interior also determines what can be done environmentally in areas adjacent to reservation lands. He is more important than Barack Obama to native people. But, they are not even mentioned in the discussions of his appointment. I did find a single article about Daschle's departmental jurisdiction over the health of American Indians, it was from Giago at Indian Country but it was posted on the Huffpost blogs. If we allow enough "colorblindness" everyone else will become as invisible as the first targets of white racism, American Indians. I have to clench my jaws to read most press on the election and race. Denial and claims of colorblindness are truly an American tradition. If you can make a group invisible by colorblindness, you can allow the institutions of race to do the rest.

I googled until my fingers hurt looking for any writer any where to discuss in Salazar’s Interior Department appointment that he hold the fate of all Indian nations in his hands. Not one mention of his duties regarding native peoples or his record on them.

Not only does he have jurisdiction over the Bureau of Indian Affairs, but Interior also determines what can be done environmentally in areas adjacent to reservation lands. He is more important than Barack Obama to native people. But, they are not even mentioned in the discussions of his appointment.

I did find a single article about Daschle’s departmental jurisdiction over the health of American Indians, it was from Giago at Indian Country but it was posted on the Huffpost blogs.

If we allow enough “colorblindness” everyone else will become as invisible as the first targets of white racism, American Indians.

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]]> By: jwbe http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2009/01/02/denying-our-racist-realities-an-old-white-sport/comment-page-1/#comment-6153 jwbe Sat, 03 Jan 2009 23:13:34 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=1117#comment-6153 >A man of mixed race has now reached the pinnacle of U.S. power only two generations since the end of Jim Crow. This is a tribute to American opportunity, and it is something that has never happened in another Western democracy — notwithstanding European condescension about “racist” America. This isn't America's success but Black success. It also indicates exactly nothing when it comes to the reality of racism. I wonder why such whites who celebrate the election of Obama as "America the greatest nation with opportunities for all" can ignore the fact that America for example executes Black people even if they are innocent or at least not guilty via evidence. But celebrating symbolism is more interesting than addressing human rights violations I guess. Lecturing Europe or how to call it and also ignoring different histories [oops, this would include the ability of complex thinking] is more exciting than looking into the own mirror. How can a nation celebrate the beginning of a genocide (Columbus Day), can be proud of history (slavery) and illegally invade souvereign nations - it can do it because it has the power to do and to define the rules and who is "good" and who is "bad". I am looking forward to the day when America will finally pay reparations to African Americans and will abolish death penalty. This would be real progress. >A man of mixed race has now reached the pinnacle of U.S. power only two generations since the end of Jim Crow. This is a tribute to American opportunity, and it is something that has never happened in another Western democracy — notwithstanding European condescension about “racist” America.

This isn’t America’s success but Black success.
It also indicates exactly nothing when it comes to the reality of racism.
I wonder why such whites who celebrate the election of Obama as “America the greatest nation with opportunities for all” can ignore the fact that America for example executes Black people even if they are innocent or at least not guilty via evidence.
But celebrating symbolism is more interesting than addressing human rights violations I guess. Lecturing Europe or how to call it and also ignoring different histories [oops, this would include the ability of complex thinking] is more exciting than looking into the own mirror. How can a nation celebrate the beginning of a genocide (Columbus Day), can be proud of history (slavery) and illegally invade souvereign nations – it can do it because it has the power to do and to define the rules and who is “good” and who is “bad”.
I am looking forward to the day when America will finally pay reparations to African Americans and will abolish death penalty. This would be real progress.

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