Comments on: Smearing Dr. Wright: White Fear and Republican Leaders, Again http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2008/11/02/smearing-dr-wright-white-fear-and-republican-leaders-again/ Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:43:46 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: racismreview.com » Blog Archive » In Depth Interviews with Whites Tell Obama Reactions http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2008/11/02/smearing-dr-wright-white-fear-and-republican-leaders-again/comment-page-1/#comment-5900 racismreview.com » Blog Archive » In Depth Interviews with Whites Tell Obama Reactions Mon, 24 Nov 2008 03:13:49 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=728#comment-5900 [...] also found people held contradictory views about Obama as both a radical Christian and a potential Islamic terrorist. When confronted with this inconsistency, they were unable to [...] [...] also found people held contradictory views about Obama as both a radical Christian and a potential Islamic terrorist. When confronted with this inconsistency, they were unable to [...]

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]]> By: Seattle in Texas http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2008/11/02/smearing-dr-wright-white-fear-and-republican-leaders-again/comment-page-1/#comment-5740 Seattle in Texas Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:46:03 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=728#comment-5740 Curious, I agree with your first sentence. No I did not see it, but I will see if I can view it for sure. What I do know, is that many people seem to lack the capacity to interpret Dr. Wright's messages in his context and tradition, which ties back to human emancipation. "Rational"...cute...that's just soooo, hmmm, I don't know, elitist. I will try to view it and see if I can see it from your perspective though.... Curious, I agree with your first sentence. No I did not see it, but I will see if I can view it for sure. What I do know, is that many people seem to lack the capacity to interpret Dr. Wright’s messages in his context and tradition, which ties back to human emancipation. “Rational”…cute…that’s just soooo, hmmm, I don’t know, elitist. I will try to view it and see if I can see it from your perspective though….

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]]> By: curious http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2008/11/02/smearing-dr-wright-white-fear-and-republican-leaders-again/comment-page-1/#comment-5739 curious Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:53:07 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=728#comment-5739 Seattle, objectively, out there in reality, in fact, there are no discernable differences in cognitive style between Euro-Americans and Afro-Americans. Wright is promoting a false idea about racial differences. This is not only inaccurate and mistaken. It is fodder for our enemies. Your apologetics for what Wright "really" meant would be funny if they weren't so dangerous. did you even watch Wright's speech at the NAACP meeting in April? Actually watch the video of Wright's speech. Then come back and we can debate this rationally. Seattle, objectively, out there in reality, in fact, there are no discernable differences in cognitive style between Euro-Americans and Afro-Americans. Wright is promoting a false idea about racial differences. This is not only inaccurate and mistaken. It is fodder for our enemies.
Your apologetics for what Wright “really” meant would be funny if they weren’t so dangerous. did you even watch Wright’s speech at the NAACP meeting in April? Actually watch the video of Wright’s speech. Then come back and we can debate this rationally.

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]]> By: Seattle in Texas http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2008/11/02/smearing-dr-wright-white-fear-and-republican-leaders-again/comment-page-1/#comment-5734 Seattle in Texas Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:34:11 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=728#comment-5734 That suggestion is racist in that there is an implicit assertion that there is indeed a fundamental cognitive hierarchy of some sort. Generalized cognitive differences should be held to strictly nominal comparisons only (which is I’m sure, the context Dr. Wright was speaking in) that are culturally and/or socially based with an emphasis on how social inequality serves to stratify and segregate people based on what the white supremacist society most values, thereby privileging some based on those values and depriving and/or blocking others from equal participation, training, etc. To move away from a white supremacist society, U.S. society would have to value creative thinking, differences, and provide diverse settings where all people can have the opportunity to strive towards their own human potential, and where their own uniqueness and skills can make significant contributions to society—remove the stratified socially constructed hierarchies of various sorts. And actually, more intellectually rigorous professions do happen to require creative and innovative thinking, but many are necessarily blocked for the very reasons stated above…. That suggestion is racist in that there is an implicit assertion that there is indeed a fundamental cognitive hierarchy of some sort. Generalized cognitive differences should be held to strictly nominal comparisons only (which is I’m sure, the context Dr. Wright was speaking in) that are culturally and/or socially based with an emphasis on how social inequality serves to stratify and segregate people based on what the white supremacist society most values, thereby privileging some based on those values and depriving and/or blocking others from equal participation, training, etc. To move away from a white supremacist society, U.S. society would have to value creative thinking, differences, and provide diverse settings where all people can have the opportunity to strive towards their own human potential, and where their own uniqueness and skills can make significant contributions to society—remove the stratified socially constructed hierarchies of various sorts. And actually, more intellectually rigorous professions do happen to require creative and innovative thinking, but many are necessarily blocked for the very reasons stated above….

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]]> By: curious http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2008/11/02/smearing-dr-wright-white-fear-and-republican-leaders-again/comment-page-1/#comment-5729 curious Tue, 11 Nov 2008 04:43:08 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=728#comment-5729 Dr. Wright's speech at the NAACP meeting in April was essentialist, suggesting that Blacks and Whites have fundamentally different cognitive styles. Dr. Wright's thematic claim was that "difference is not deficient" and that Euro-Americans are "analytic" "cognitive" and "object oriented" in their thinking. In contrast, Wright claimed that African Americans are "subject oriented" "creative" and "oral." These claims are not only false, but they also provide fuel for claims that African-Americans are paid less than Euro-Americans because their cognitive style does not equip them for the more intellectually rigorous (and high compensation) occupations such as the professions and technical fields. Wright's speech at the NAACP accomodated racism. Dr. Wright’s speech at the NAACP meeting in April was essentialist, suggesting that Blacks and Whites have fundamentally different cognitive styles. Dr. Wright’s thematic claim was that “difference is not deficient” and that Euro-Americans are “analytic” “cognitive” and “object oriented” in their thinking. In contrast, Wright claimed that African Americans are “subject oriented” “creative” and “oral.” These claims are not only false, but they also provide fuel for claims that African-Americans are paid less than Euro-Americans because their cognitive style does not equip them for the more intellectually rigorous (and high compensation) occupations such as the professions and technical fields. Wright’s speech at the NAACP accomodated racism.

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]]> By: racismreview.com » Blog Archive » The Meaning of Wright in the Obama Campaign http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2008/11/02/smearing-dr-wright-white-fear-and-republican-leaders-again/comment-page-1/#comment-5678 racismreview.com » Blog Archive » The Meaning of Wright in the Obama Campaign Tue, 04 Nov 2008 23:21:04 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=728#comment-5678 [...] race and politics is Reverend Dr. Jeremiah Wright (image from RobinDude via Flickr). I agree with Joe that Wright is “actually an American prophet, indeed a prophetic hero who is not afraid to condemn [...] [...] race and politics is Reverend Dr. Jeremiah Wright (image from RobinDude via Flickr). I agree with Joe that Wright is “actually an American prophet, indeed a prophetic hero who is not afraid to condemn [...]

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]]> By: Dr. Terence Fitzgerald http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2008/11/02/smearing-dr-wright-white-fear-and-republican-leaders-again/comment-page-1/#comment-5676 Dr. Terence Fitzgerald Tue, 04 Nov 2008 21:48:00 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=728#comment-5676 Mordy, I agree...Some Whites. But we can not forget the infectious results of racism. As Memmi states, that racism is forever unrelenting and replicated within in our society. For that fact alone, we are all prone to beoming the oppressor. Mordy, I agree…Some Whites. But we can not forget the infectious results of racism. As Memmi states, that racism is forever unrelenting and replicated within in our society. For that fact alone, we are all prone to beoming the oppressor.

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]]> By: mordy http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2008/11/02/smearing-dr-wright-white-fear-and-republican-leaders-again/comment-page-1/#comment-5674 mordy Tue, 04 Nov 2008 21:11:08 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=728#comment-5674 Some Whites, Dr. Fitzgerald. Not all whites. What i hope and think we will see today is vast numbers of Non-Whites and Whites who all see that their feet are resting on the same space. While historically this wasn't the case i think we are that the beginning of a quantum shift which isn't all going to be accomplished in an Obama presidency. But hopefully a foundation will have been laid upon which many more feet can equally rest Some Whites, Dr. Fitzgerald. Not all whites. What i hope and think we will see today is vast numbers of Non-Whites and Whites who all see that their feet are resting on the same space. While historically this wasn’t the case i think we are that the beginning of a quantum shift which isn’t all going to be accomplished in an Obama presidency. But hopefully a foundation will have been laid upon which many more feet can equally rest

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]]> By: Dr. Terence Fitzgerald http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2008/11/02/smearing-dr-wright-white-fear-and-republican-leaders-again/comment-page-1/#comment-5673 Dr. Terence Fitzgerald Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:28:01 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=728#comment-5673 There is an old Chinese Proverb that states, "Men in the game are blind to what men looking on see clearly.” Historically Whites within the U.S. have not only been participants in the game, but they have also constructed the rules for which they see fit. This game of securing power and resources while forcing others less fortunate through techniques of psychological and physical control over hundreds of years has catapultated Whites into the hazy stratosphere we all know as White privilege. Within this illusive state, Whites are unwilling to see those on which their feet rest. Simply, I see people who are unwilling to acknowledge the effects of their actions as I do a person addicted to drugs. Moreover, these Whites are addicted to the drugs of power and privilege. Therefore, when people like Dr. Wright speak to the injustice of the "game," they are casted as subversives and enemies of the state. Instead, we as a country should see people like Dr. Wright as true patriots. With change and people like Dr. Wright advocating for change, on the horizon today, we must all remember the words of Mark Twain: "In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, Brave, Hated, and Scorned. When his cause succeeds however,the timid join him, For then it costs nothing to be a Patriot." There is an old Chinese Proverb that states, “Men in the game are blind to what men looking on see clearly.” Historically Whites within the U.S. have not only been participants in the game, but they have also constructed the rules for which they see fit. This game of securing power and resources while forcing others less fortunate through techniques of psychological and physical control over hundreds of years has catapultated Whites into the hazy stratosphere we all know as White privilege. Within this illusive state, Whites are unwilling to see those on which their feet rest. Simply, I see people who are unwilling to acknowledge the effects of their actions as I do a person addicted to drugs. Moreover, these Whites are addicted to the drugs of power and privilege. Therefore, when people like Dr. Wright speak to the injustice of the “game,” they are casted as subversives and enemies of the state. Instead, we as a country should see people like Dr. Wright as true patriots. With change and people like Dr. Wright advocating for change, on the horizon today, we must all remember the words of Mark Twain: “In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, Brave, Hated, and Scorned. When his cause succeeds however,the timid join him, For then it costs nothing to be a Patriot.”

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]]> By: Joe http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2008/11/02/smearing-dr-wright-white-fear-and-republican-leaders-again/comment-page-1/#comment-5672 Joe Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:58:25 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=728#comment-5672 RJC, interesting point. Do you have a url to Parsley? RJC, interesting point. Do you have a url to Parsley?

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