Comments on: The White Racial Frame: What is It?

By: Joe

Joe — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 01:13:24 +0000

Tony, glad you are working hard on all this. Keep it up. I develop these WRF ideas in books, Systemic Racism (Routledge 2006) and Two Faced Racism (routledge 2007), especially the first chapters in both. I also have one, The White Racial Frame (routledge) that will be out in about a month. It is very easy to be brainwashed in this country. Critical thinking is is in short supply, but it can be honed and taught.

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By: Tony Andrews

Tony Andrews — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 01:01:11 +0000

Doc,

I am a white seventh-day adventist minister and I have my own website dedicated to educating people on race and culture. I battle back and forth on facebook as well posting essays on racism, whiteness and white privilege.

I am getting so frustrated the cloud of self-righteousness and denial is so thick it is sickening. I even have a childhood friend who is half native american and white who is constantly defending this country and his individual effort and that other minorities can make it if they just work hard. When I share with him the historical past of this country to his people it just seems it goes through one ear and out the other. He also doesn’t recognize that benefits that he gets from the govt that other especially blacks do not get yet has the nerve to tell them to pull themselves by their bootstraps. I believe he lives in whiteness.

Which book of your dealing mainly with individualism, work hard and you can make it arguments? I have Racist America and been strumming through it but haven’t found anything in depth on those arguments.

Thx, Pastor Tony Andrews

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Racism, Sexism and The Significance of Sotomayor | racismreview.com — Thu, 28 May 2009 14:09:24 +0000

[...] for President. In several these statements, he acknowledges the existence and consequences of systemic racism: “I don’t believe it is possible to transcend race in this country. . . Race is a factor [...]

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By: Think MPS

Think MPS — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:51:29 +0000

I’ll be honest. My original comment was going to be something about avoiding sacred cows, the possibility for ugly but ultimately harmless jokes, and a (weak) defense of the jokers on the grounds that they are merely uncreative in their humor.

But the more I thought, I just couldn’t. Ugly racist humor isn’t a sacred cow, and if our dear jokers were uncreative or even just using ’safe’ humor – well, that doesn’t bode well for their default FRAME, now does it.

The idea of an ugly but harmless joke gets me the furthest until I imagine telling any joke with its ‘butt’ present. Oops.

I wonder if anyone has actionable advice in dealing with the white racial frame? Will this appear in your book? It is extraordinarily difficult to interrupt the group in this way and usually results in an exclusion (a quiet, modern, not-expressed-in-polite-company exclusion.). It’s like arguing about evolution – how do you concisely and effectively respond to “Oh, lighten up dude” or “Chill out nobody really means it” ??

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Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:29:35 +0000

[...] embodies the common stereotype long entrenched in the white racial frame and replicated for hundreds of years in this country that portrays whites as having “family [...]

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Holy crap, people. « don’t do that — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:00:19 +0000

[...] Racism Review has a great post on this article identifying the pervasiveness of the white racial frame. Read it [...]

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By: Joe

Joe — Wed, 28 May 2008 15:13:19 +0000

Ryon, Yes, there are both white racist subframes that target Latino and Asian Americans, constructed on the older anti-black and anti-Indian racial framing. As new groups were brought into the society as labor for creating white wealth, they too got “framed” by powerful whites.

Many Americans of color operate, to a significant degree, out of some version of the white racial frame.

The white racial frame does vary some over time , and by white group, but the core “bits” have been pretty much the same for hundreds of years, sadly.

There are also counter frames, anti-racist frames, created esp. by those who are targeted by the white racial frame.

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By: Ryon

Ryon — Mon, 26 May 2008 21:33:31 +0000

Thank you Dr. Feagin….

Is there a Latino racial framework, and if so, how does it differ from the white and black racial framework? And if we control for age, are there differences in each racial framework?

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By: Joe

Joe — Mon, 26 May 2008 16:07:13 +0000

Ryon, excellent question. For most whites, operating out of the white racial frame is like being the proverbial fish in water. It is so normal they do not “see” it in their daily lives, and when it is called to their to their attention, as by dissenters, they use various “I am not a racist” defenses that interfere with seeing it for what it really is. Most can “see” and know that some of it is wrong when it is called out, but not its full racist impact and meaning. This is complex , but the white sense of the racial frame as normal is the key. They assume they as “decent people” (that is, “decent whites”) are virtuous and thus can not be evil when operating out of the old racial frame (such as in racist joking),–that is, they as “good people” cannot thus be “racist” by definition…. JF

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By: Ryon Cobb

Ryon Cobb — Mon, 26 May 2008 15:33:20 +0000

Is it that whites dont know they’re racists, or know but dont care or a
mixture of both.

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