Comments on: White Voters and Racial Framing: How Many Will Vote for Senator Obama? http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2008/04/07/white-voters-and-racial-framing-how-many-will-vote-for-senator-obama/ Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:03:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: WilmaD http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2008/04/07/white-voters-and-racial-framing-how-many-will-vote-for-senator-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-5514 WilmaD Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:26:29 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=229#comment-5514 Blacks also voted for Gore by 90%--was there racism involved there? Democrats can count on a huge percentage of the Black vote. It's the party, stupid. Blacks also voted for Gore by 90%–was there racism involved there? Democrats can count on a huge percentage of the Black vote. It’s the party, stupid.

]]> By: Jessica http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2008/04/07/white-voters-and-racial-framing-how-many-will-vote-for-senator-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-2749 Jessica Sat, 26 Apr 2008 03:27:06 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=229#comment-2749 very good points. you write "non-Hispanic whites give Senator Obama only 37 percent of their votes, significantly less than they have given successful Democratic (and, of course, white) presidential candidates in the past." Do you have any evidence to back this up? Thanks very good points. you write “non-Hispanic whites give Senator Obama only 37 percent of their votes, significantly less than they have given successful Democratic (and, of course, white) presidential candidates in the past.” Do you have any evidence to back this up? Thanks

]]> By: Louise http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2008/04/07/white-voters-and-racial-framing-how-many-will-vote-for-senator-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-2377 Louise Wed, 09 Apr 2008 00:43:45 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=229#comment-2377 I don't like how this poll only splits up non-hispanic whites according to their political affiliation, as if only non-white voters can be categorized by race according to who they're voting for president. I don’t like how this poll only splits up non-hispanic whites according to their political affiliation, as if only non-white voters can be categorized by race according to who they’re voting for president.

]]> By: Seattle in Texas http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2008/04/07/white-voters-and-racial-framing-how-many-will-vote-for-senator-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-2375 Seattle in Texas Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:01:22 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=229#comment-2375 The sexism thing and Hillary. Sorry to bring up the PNW again--but 1/2 of my current life is consumed by this area, so my discussions are limited--even though it doesn't fit with the whole North and South thing, hopefully it still adds something.... But in talking to people (mostly females) back in Washington, Oregon, and Idaho (who were all not Clinton fans in the first place), they overtly expressed their increasingly harsher sentiments more so after she cried. Interestingly, I haven’t heard any criticisms of the cry down here…but have heard the racism with relation to Obama. There are definitely racist Hillary supporters up there too—the white feminist stuff…*gag*, but whatever—I am thinking, or rather really wondering, if the by and large racist Feminists might very well correct for the “Democratic” men who wouldn’t vote for a women presidential candidate in terms of Clinton support (nation wide). But from those I know, it’s not necessarily or only about gender--it's about character, etc. (Washington has both a female senator and governor and they are very supportive of them). And just because she’s a female doesn’t mean she or her campaign should be excused from being racist. Now, some former Clinton supporters up in that region have switched their support to Obama because of the racist strategies and attacks—so, she/her campaign pushing some of her own supporters on their own. If Obama were using sexist tactics in his politics, his supporters would be very critical of him as many are also feminists and humanists—it wouldn’t fly…. In terms of the media…no comment just for the sake of brevity. On a different note, the breakdown above is great and agree with how the supporters should respond to racism in daily lives and as a collective…groovy stuff here. The sexism thing and Hillary. Sorry to bring up the PNW again–but 1/2 of my current life is consumed by this area, so my discussions are limited–even though it doesn’t fit with the whole North and South thing, hopefully it still adds something…. But in talking to people (mostly females) back in Washington, Oregon, and Idaho (who were all not Clinton fans in the first place), they overtly expressed their increasingly harsher sentiments more so after she cried. Interestingly, I haven’t heard any criticisms of the cry down here…but have heard the racism with relation to Obama. There are definitely racist Hillary supporters up there too—the white feminist stuff…*gag*, but whatever—I am thinking, or rather really wondering, if the by and large racist Feminists might very well correct for the “Democratic” men who wouldn’t vote for a women presidential candidate in terms of Clinton support (nation wide). But from those I know, it’s not necessarily or only about gender–it’s about character, etc. (Washington has both a female senator and governor and they are very supportive of them).

And just because she’s a female doesn’t mean she or her campaign should be excused from being racist. Now, some former Clinton supporters up in that region have switched their support to Obama because of the racist strategies and attacks—so, she/her campaign pushing some of her own supporters on their own. If Obama were using sexist tactics in his politics, his supporters would be very critical of him as many are also feminists and humanists—it wouldn’t fly…. In terms of the media…no comment just for the sake of brevity.

On a different note, the breakdown above is great and agree with how the supporters should respond to racism in daily lives and as a collective…groovy stuff here.

]]> By: James Chriss http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2008/04/07/white-voters-and-racial-framing-how-many-will-vote-for-senator-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-2363 James Chriss Tue, 08 Apr 2008 03:14:40 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=229#comment-2363 Yes, good points. I found this recent study of media bias regarding Senators Clinton and Obama interesting. http://www.cmpa.com Yes, good points. I found this recent study of media bias regarding Senators Clinton and Obama interesting.

http://www.cmpa.com

]]> By: Joe http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2008/04/07/white-voters-and-racial-framing-how-many-will-vote-for-senator-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-2362 Joe Tue, 08 Apr 2008 02:17:43 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=229#comment-2362 I agree there is sexism too, as polls have long shown, as you say, significant numbers who will not vote for a woman. I accent Senator Obama here since it appears Clinton cannot win now. And I think whites are more likely to hide their racial feelings than men (and some women) are to hide their feelings about a woman president. There is certainly huge sexism in the media targeting Clinton. I agree there is sexism too, as polls have long shown, as you say, significant numbers who will not vote for a woman. I accent Senator Obama here since it appears Clinton cannot win now. And I think whites are more likely to hide their racial feelings than men (and some women) are to hide their feelings about a woman president. There is certainly huge sexism in the media targeting Clinton.

]]> By: James Chriss http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2008/04/07/white-voters-and-racial-framing-how-many-will-vote-for-senator-obama/comment-page-1/#comment-2361 James Chriss Tue, 08 Apr 2008 00:16:42 +0000 http://www.racismreview.com/blog/?p=229#comment-2361 Joe, interesting parsing of the poll data on Obama and McCain. But it appears to me that a bigger factor in the democratic nomination race is not racism, but sexism. Polls have consistently shown that Americans are more likely to vote for a black man for president than they are a woman. Last poll I saw was 76% would vote for a black man, while only 63% would vote for a woman. So it's actually Senator Clinton that is facing an unprecedented and historical burden running for the highest office in the land, rather than Senator Obama. In fact, with the heavy media bias against Senator Clinton, fueld at least in part by sexism and misogny, it is amazing to me that she is still as close as she in this nomination battle. Joe, interesting parsing of the poll data on Obama and McCain. But it appears to me that a bigger factor in the democratic nomination race is not racism, but sexism. Polls have consistently shown that Americans are more likely to vote for a black man for president than they are a woman. Last poll I saw was 76% would vote for a black man, while only 63% would vote for a woman. So it’s actually Senator Clinton that is facing an unprecedented and historical burden running for the highest office in the land, rather than Senator Obama. In fact, with the heavy media bias against Senator Clinton, fueld at least in part by sexism and misogny, it is amazing to me that she is still as close as she in this nomination battle.

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